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Lesson 19 — Kim besliyor? Seen or heard

-dı and -mış side by side: were you there, or were you told; -(y)ıp for “did that, and then”; diye for someone’s words in quotation marks — and the proverbs Turks quote from their ancestors.

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1Seen or heard: -dı and -mış side by side

Last lesson brought in -mış, with a promise: the full comparison with -dı comes next time. This is next time. And the whole comparison comes down to one question: were you there?

Turkish school grammars name the two tenses for exactly that. -dı is görülen geçmiş, “the seen past”. -mış is öğrenilen geçmiş, “the learned past”. You don’t need the names, but the whole rule is in them: one you saw for yourself, the other you found out — from someone, or from the traces.

Dün Sevim teyze börek yaptı. — Sevim teyze made börek yesterday. (I was there — and I ate some.)
Dün Sevim teyze börek yapmış. Bana hiç kalmamış! — Sevim teyze made börek yesterday, apparently. And there wasn’t a crumb left for me!

Take one event and two people telling it. Deniz saw a cat at his door this morning, with his own eyes. Ayşe only knows because he told her. Listen to how each of them puts it:

Deniz: Sabah kapıda bir kedi gördüm. — Deniz: I saw a cat at the door this morning.
Ayşe: Deniz sabah kapıda bir kedi görmüş. — Ayşe: Deniz saw a cat at his door this morning, he says.

Which gives you the rule for passing news on: somebody else’s -dı becomes your -mış. The event is theirs; all you know is that you were told.

And what you’re sure of, even if you didn’t see it? Dates, family history, things everybody knows — that’s -dı. You didn’t watch your grandmother being born, but you know the year for certain.

Babaannem 1950’de doğdu. — My grandmother was born in 1950.

About yourself it’s -dı too: what you did, you know. Except for Lesson 18’s two cases: when it surprises you, and when you did it without noticing.

Bu kitabı okudum. — I’ve read this book.
Aa, bu kitabı okumuşum! — Oh — I’ve read this one already!
Televizyonun önünde uyumuşum. — I must have fallen asleep in front of the TV.

One last thing. -mış from the traces is a guess, and a guess can be wrong. Galiba biri kediye süt vermiş — “looks like somebody’s given the cat some milk”. Looks like. Hold on to that sentence: today’s story is going to need it.

2Kalkıp baktım: one thing, then the next

In any story one action hooks on to the next: got up and opened the window, came in and sat down. You can say both verbs in full: kalktım ve açtım. Or, the way Turks usually do, shorter: kalkıp açtım. -(y)ıp means “did that — and then”.

The stem, -ıp, and that’s it. Four teams: -ıp, -ip, -up, -üp. After a vowel, a glue y — Lesson 16’s. And -ıp has no person and no tense at all: it borrows both from the last verb. Kapıyı açıp baktım is “I opened the door and looked”, and both times it’s “I”, both times it’s the past.

Read, the y, -up: having read.
alıp, gelip, okuyup, görüp — having taken, come, read, seen — all four teams
Kapıyı açıp dışarı baktım. — I opened the door and looked out.
Eve gelip yemek yedik. — We came home and had something to eat.

The tense comes from the last verb as well — whichever one it is:

Yarın erken kalkıp denize gireceğiz. — Tomorrow we’ll get up early and go for a swim.
Kedi sütü içip gitmiş. — Looks like the cat drank the milk and left.

The sounds behave the way you’re used to by now. Gitmek gives gidip — the t turns into d, as in gidiyorum. Etmek gives edip. Yemek gives yiyip, like Lesson 17’s yiyecek. Demek is the one stubborn exception: deyip, keeping its e. That’s how TDK spells it, and plenty of Turks trip over it too.

Fırına gidip ekmek aldım. — I went to the bakery and bought some bread.
Sevim teyzede yiyip içtik. — We ate and drank our fill at Sevim teyze’s.

With Lesson 10’s imperative and “let’s” you get what might be the most Turkish phrases there are. Gidip bakayım — “let me go and have a look”. Oturup konuşalım — “let’s sit down and talk”.

Gidip bakayım. — Let me go and have a look.
Oturup konuşalım. — Let’s sit down and talk.

Today it’s the positive only. “Without doing” has forms of its own, -mayıp and -madan, and they’re waiting for you in Lesson 24.

3“Ben gördüm!” diye bağırdı: somebody’s words, word for word

All last lesson we were passing things on in -mış. But sometimes you want someone’s words exactly as they were said: who shouted what, who asked what. For that you need quotation marks and one small word — diye.

Tırnak işareti — the “fingernail mark”.

Quotation marks in Turkish are tırnak işareti, literally “the fingernail mark”: tırnak is a nail — or, on a cat, a claw. They sit up high, like this: “Geldim!”

The order goes: who — the words in quotation marks — diye — and a verb that says how they were said.

Efe “Ben gördüm!” diye bağırdı. — “I saw it!” Efe shouted.
Deniz “Kim?” diye sordu. — “Who?” Deniz asked.
Sevim teyze “Ben vermedim” diye cevap verdi. — “I didn’t give it any,” Sevim teyze answered.
Can “Aç mısın?” diye kediye fısıldadı. — “Are you hungry?” Can whispered to the cat.
Deniz “Kedi aç” diye düşündü. — “The cat’s hungry,” Deniz thought.
Say — and diye: “saying”.

Diye comes from demek, “to say”; the e turns to i before the y, as in diyor. Word for word, diye is “saying”. “Saying ‘I saw it!’, Efe shouted.” Odd in English, but that’s how Turkish does it: diye labels the words “these were said”, and the verb after it tells you how — shouted, asked, whispered, thought.

With dedi — “said” — itself, you don’t need diye: dedi already means “said”.

Ayşe “Günaydın” dedi. — “Good morning,” Ayşe said.

And here’s where diye meets the first section. Inside the quotation marks the words stay exactly as they were said: the “I”, the tense, all of it theirs. Deniz was talking about himself, so the quote says gördüm. To tell it in your own words, reach for -mış. Two ways to pass news on: word for word with diye, or in your own words with -mış.

Deniz “Bir kedi gördüm” dedi. — “I saw a cat,” said Deniz.
Deniz bir kedi görmüş. — Deniz saw a cat, he says.

That’s how any dialogue turns into a story:

Can: Kahve içelim mi? — Ayşe: Olur. — Can: Shall we have a coffee? — Ayşe: Sure.
Can “Kahve içelim mi?” diye sordu. Ayşe de “Olur” diye cevap verdi. — “Shall we have a coffee?” Can asked. “Sure,” Ayşe answered.

4Türkiye up close: what the ancestors said

You’ve met proverbs already: Komşuya boş tabak gitmez in Lesson 6, Acele işe şeytan karışır in Lesson 11, Fala inanma, falsız da kalma last time. Today’s about how Turks bring them out. Because in Turkish a proverb isn’t just said. It’s quoted.

A yorgan, a quilt. Stretch your feet to fit it.

A proverb is an atasözü: ata is “ancestor”, söz is “word”, with Lesson 8’s izafet. “The ancestors’ word”. And it often comes in with a question: Atalarımız ne demiş? — “And what did our ancestors say?” Or just Ne demişler? Notice it? -mış. None of us heard the ancestors; their words reached us through other people — so, -mış. Today’s rule exactly.

They’re old, too. In the eleventh century Mahmud al-Kashgari was already collecting them in his dictionary of the Turkic languages, the Dīwān Lughāt al-Turk, where a proverb is called a sav. Today there are thousands, and the Turkish Language Association, TDK, keeps a whole dictionary of them.

The best part is that you can take some apart yourself already. Here’s one: Ayağını yorganına göre uzat. Ayak is “foot”, from Lesson 12. Ayağın is “your foot”, and ayağını is the same in Lesson 14’s accusative. Yorgan is a quilt, yorganına “to your quilt”. Göre is last lesson’s “according to”. Uzat is “stretch”, Lesson 10’s imperative. Together: “stretch your feet according to your quilt”. In English you’d cut your coat according to your cloth.

Ayağını yorganına göre uzat. — Stretch your feet to fit your quilt.

Two: Bir elin nesi var, iki elin sesi var. “What has one hand got? Two hands have got a sound.” Nesi var is ne with “its” and var, the way Lesson 8 built “I’ve got”. Clap one hand — nothing. Two — there’s your sound. Things get done together.

Bir elin nesi var, iki elin sesi var. — One hand’s got nothing; two hands have got a sound.

And a third, for today’s story — about a cat: Kedi uzanamadığı ciğere “pis” dermiş. “The cat calls the liver it can’t reach ‘dirty’.” Sour grapes, in other words. Take this one whole: der, “says”, is from Lesson 21, and uzanamadığı from further on still. But look at two things. There are quotation marks in it: it’s quoting the cat. And at the end there’s -miş: dermiş, “says, apparently”. Nobody ever caught the cat saying it. Even the proverb only has it on hearsay.

Kedi uzanamadığı ciğere “pis” dermiş. — The cat, they say, calls the liver it can’t reach “dirty”.

In an argument a proverb works like a trump card. You can argue with a friend all day, but the ancestors are harder to argue with. Atalarımız ne demiş? — and the argument, more often than not, is over.

5Dialogue: the telephone game

Saturday, at Sevim teyze’s. The children were playing kulaktan kulağa — “from ear to ear”, the telephone game. Ayşe and Can played too. The sentence didn’t make it to the end, and now, on the stairs, they’re working out whose fault that was.

Can:
Ayşe, oyunu sen bozdun!
Ayşe:
Ben mi? Hiç bozmadım! Zeynep bana bir cümle fısıldadı, ben de sana aynısını fısıldadım.
Can:
Zeynep sana ne dedi?
Ayşe:
“Kedi merdivende süt içti.” Ben de sana “Kedi merdivende süt içti” diye fısıldadım.
Can:
Hayır! Sen bana “Deniz merdivende süt içti” diye fısıldadın!
Ayşe:
Deniz mi? Ben “Deniz” demedim. “Kedi” dedim!
Can:
Ama ben “Deniz” duydum!
Ayşe:
Peki. Sen Ali’ye ne dedin?
Can:
Ben mi? “Deniz merdivende kedi gibi süt içti.”
Ayşe:
“Kedi gibi” mi? Onu nereden buldun?
Can:
Cümle çok kısaydı. Ben biraz güzel yaptım.
Ayşe:
Can! Bu oyunda cümleyi güzel yapmıyorsun. Duyup söylüyorsun!
Can:
Tamam, tamam. Peki, Ali Efe’ye ne demiş?
Ayşe:
Bilmiyorum. Kimse duymadı.
Can:
Ama Efe sonunda ne dedi, hatırlıyor musun?
Ayşe:
Hatırlıyorum. Efe “Deniz abi kedi olmuş!” diye bağırdı.
Can:
Ve herkes güldü. Gördün mü? Ben oyunu bozmadım. Güzel yaptım!
Ayşe:
Evet, evet. Deniz de “Miyav!” dedi.

Bozmak is “to break, to ruin”. Cümle is “a sentence”. Fısıldamak is “to whisper”. Watch who knows what. Ayşe passes on her own words with dedim and fısıldadım — she did that herself. What Ali whispered to Efe, nobody heard, so Can asks ne demiş. And at the end Efe shouts in -mış — kedi olmuş — because he’s passing on what he heard, too. The quotation marks keep his words exactly as he said them.

6Reading

Remember the plate that’s been going up and down the stairs since Lesson 6? Last lesson it landed with Deniz again, full of börek. Today it goes back upstairs — and somebody new turns up on the stairs.

Kim besliyor?

One cat, four dishes, and nobody to blame.

Pazartesi sabahı Deniz tabağı alıp yukarı çıktı.
Tabak yine doluydu. Bu kez tabakta lokum vardı.
Sevim teyze güldü.
— Bu tabak hiç boş gitmiyor!
Salı sabahı Deniz kapıyı açıp dışarı baktı.
Paspasta bir kedi vardı.
Gri, çizgili bir kedi: bir tekir.
Kedi Deniz’e baktı. Deniz de kediye baktı.
— Merhaba. Sen kimsin?
Kedi cevap vermedi. Merdivenden aşağı inip gitti.
Merdivende küçük bir kase vardı. Kase boştu, ama ıslaktı.
Deniz “Galiba biri kediye süt vermiş” diye düşündü.
Ama kim?
Deniz yukarı çıkıp Sevim teyzenin kapısını çaldı.
— Sevim teyze, kediye süt verdiniz mi?
— Süt mü? Hayır, ben süt vermedim!
Sevim teyze kapıyı hemen kapattı.
Merdivende Deniz Ayşe ile Can’ı gördü.
— Kediye süt verdiniz mi?
Ayşe “Hayır, ben süt vermedim” dedi.
Can da “Ben de süt vermedim!” diye güldü.
Yaz tatili. Efe bu hafta babaannesinde.
Efe merdivenden koşup geldi.
— Deniz abi! Ben gördüm! Dün akşam bir kedi geldi, kapının önünde oturdu!
— Sen mi süt verdin?
— Hayır! Babaanne “Kediye dokunma” dedi!
Herkes “Ben süt vermedim” diyor. Peki, süt kimden?
Çarşamba sabahı Deniz yine kapıyı açıp baktı.
Tekir yine paspastaydı.
Ve merdivende bir değil, dört kap vardı!
Bir kasede biraz yoğurt vardı.
— Bu kaseyi tanıyorum. Bu kase Sevim teyzenin!
Çiçekli küçük bir tabakta beyaz peynir vardı.
— Ayşe’nin bütün tabakları çiçekli.
Bir kağıtta küçük bir balık vardı. Kağıtta bir de harf vardı: “C”.
Son tabakta üç kurabiye vardı. Biri yarımdı.
Deniz güldü.
— Yarım kurabiye mi? Onu kim yemiş, biliyorum!
Akşam herkes merdivendeydi.
— Siz dün bana “Süt vermedik” dediniz!
Sevim teyze güldü.
— Doğru! Ben süt vermedim. Yoğurt verdim!
— Ben de süt vermedim. Peynir verdim!
— Ben balık verdim!
— Ben kurabiye verdim! Biraz da ben yedim.
Meğer kimse süt vermemiş. Herkes başka bir şey vermiş!
Tekir bir değil, dört akşam yemeği yemiş.
— O zaman bu kedi hiç aç değil!
Sevim teyze “Adı ne olsun?” diye sordu.
Herkes hemen bir isim söyledi.
Sevim teyze “Paşa” dedi. Ayşe “Bulut” dedi.
Can “Aslan!” diye bağırdı. Efe “Kurabiye!” diye bağırdı.
Tekir kimseye bakmadı.
Deniz’in paspasına yatıp uyudu.
— Adı daha yok. Ama evini seçmiş, galiba.

Tekir is a grey, striped cat — a tabby. Paspas is a doormat. Kap is any dish or container: a bowl, a plate, a tub. Beslemek is “to feed” (an animal), “to keep”. Paşa, Bulut and Aslan are ordinary cat names: “the pasha”, “cloud”, “lion”. And look what happened to the guess from the first section: galiba… vermiş — and wrong! Nobody gave it milk. -mış from the traces is only a guess. At the end it’s meğer vermemiş: the truth has come out.

1Who gave the cat milk?

2How did Deniz know the biscuits were from Efe?

3Where did the cat go to sleep at the end?

7The lesson’s new words

Everything new from today, in the order it turned up. The -ıp forms aren’t here — you build those yourself. Nor are the proverbs: they’re taken whole, and ciğer and pis live in just the one. The cat’s names didn’t make it either: it hasn’t got one yet.

New words

  • televizyontelevision
  • dışarıout, outside
  • tırnak işaretiquotation marks
  • tırnaknail; claw
  • bağırmakto shout
  • fısıldamakto whisper
  • atasözüproverb
  • ataancestor
  • yorganquilt
  • uzatmakto stretch out
  • kulaktan kulağathe telephone game
  • bozmakto break, to ruin
  • cümlesentence
  • kimsenobody, anybody
  • beslemekto feed (an animal), to keep
  • paspasdoormat
  • çizgilistriped
  • tekirtabby
  • aşağıdown
  • koşmakto run
  • dokunmakto touch
  • kapdish, container
  • bütünall, whole
  • harfletter (of the alphabet)

8Say it yourself

Out loud first, then check. Missed? Good — that’s how it sticks. Peeking first just gives away the useful part.

I saw a cat myself
Deniz saw a cat, he says
I opened the door and looked (with -ıp)
let me go and have a look
Efe shouted, “I saw it!”
Deniz asked, “Who?”

9Check yourself

Six items. A miss shows you the right answer, so getting it wrong here is useful too.

1Match each picture to its word.

2Fill in the right form: “It rained yesterday” — you saw it yourself.

Dün yağmur ?

3Fill in the right form: Ayşe told you she’s bought a jumper.

Ayşe bir kazak ?

4Fill in the right form: “I came home and ate.”

Eve ? yemek yedim.

5Fill in the right word: “‘I saw it!’ Efe shouted.”

Efe “Ben gördüm!” ? bağırdı.

6What does Ayağını yorganına göre uzat mean?

10Homework

All of it out loud. Today’s grammar is a storyteller’s grammar, so tell stories.

  1. Your morning as five pairs of actions, each joined with -ıp: Kalkıp… Yüzümü yıkayıp…
  2. One thing that happened this week, twice: as you saw it (-dı), and as a friend who wasn’t there would pass it on (-mış).
  3. Three things people said, with diye: somebody asked, somebody shouted, somebody thought.
  4. Pick a proverb from the lesson and take it apart out loud, word by word.
  5. That evening Sevim teyze phones Nermin in İzmir. Tell the story of the four dishes the way Nermin hears it — in -mış.